WotD: incense burner

[muckefuck]

1. der Duftrauchbrenner
2. de wierookbrander
3. el quemador de incienso
4. el cremador d'encens
5. la brûle-parfum
6. y llosgwr arogldarth
7. an túiseán
8. 향로 (香爐)
9. 香爐 xiānglú

• Bonus translation: धूपदानी/ਧੂਪਦਾਨੀ dhoopdaanee

Comments

[gorkabear.livejournal.com]

CAT: Encens (http://www.enciclopedia.cat/cgi-bin/CercaGEC3.exe?APP=CERCAPAR&PAG=0001&PAR=encens)

[muckefuck.livejournal.com]

Gràcies per la correcció, amic meu!

[gorkabear.livejournal.com]

És un plaer... Gràcies a tu pels teus interessantíssims posts

[muckefuck.livejournal.com]

El plaer és tot meu. I com està sortint el club de seguidors?

[gorkabear.livejournal.com]

Volem fer-te un altar :)

[muckefuck.livejournal.com]

Cap cosa massa extravagant, comprens? Sóc un home modest.

[gorkabear.livejournal.com]

Mmmmm
Sí, havia pensat en alguna cosa així, discretíssima:
http://www.jccm.es/edu/cp/cpruizjarabo/localizacion/altar.jpg

[muckefuck.livejournal.com]

Em sembla que és una miqueta cridaner. També se'n fa de bronze?

[gorkabear.livejournal.com]

Si no és daurat, no és un altar!

[fainic-thu-fein.livejournal.com]

An ag caint ar an duine (cléireach) atá tú nó ar an ngléas (dóire)?

[muckefuck.livejournal.com]

Is é an gléas atá i gceist anso. Ní bhfuaireas aon t-amas Google le "dóire túise" mar sin a bhreacas síos "cléireach túise" mar ionadchoinneálaí go dtiocfaidh Donncha's tusa. Ní rabhas ag súil gur tharla sin chomh tapa!

[fainic-thu-fein.livejournal.com]

Cé nach bhfuil tada cearr le 'dóire túise', chuir freagra Dhonncha i gcuimhne dom gur chuala mé an focal 'túiseán' á úsáid le linn Aifrinn Ghaeilge i Séipéal Mhic Dara ar an gCeathrú Rua tráth agus sin an téarma a mholfainn. Tá blas an dúchais air.

[muckefuck.livejournal.com]

Nach bhfuil an blas ró-reiligiúnda don úsáid choitianta?

[fainic-thu-fein.livejournal.com]

Ní cheapaimse féin go bhfuil. D'fhéadfá 'túiseán tí' a thabhairt ar an gceann beag, b'fhéidir.

[donncha22.livejournal.com]

An é an rud atá i gceist agat, nó an duine? Is duine é an cléireach túise, an duine (cléireach = acolyte) atá i bhfeighil na túise san eaglais. "Túiseán" an rud ina ndóitear í.

[donncha22.livejournal.com]

Haigh, FTF! Seo rud aisteach: tá an focal "ceansa" (= censer) sa Bhíobla (An Sagart, Maigh Nuad, 1981), ach níl sé le fáil in FGB (1977). Mar shampla:

"Ina seasamh rompu bhí seachtó de shinsir mhuintir Iosrael agus Iázainia mac Sheáfán ina measc; a cheansa ina láimh ag gach duine acu agus néal túise ag éirí as." - Eizicéil 8:11

"Túiseoir" nó "túiséir" an focal a bhí sa Bhíobla roimhe seo:

"Sa náit a raibh an túiséir orrgha, agus áirc an chonnartha ar an folach timchioll ré hór..." - Epistil Phoil Absdail Chum na nEabhruigheadh 9:4 (Uilliam Ó Domhnuill, 1815)

[itchwoot.livejournal.com]

Das klingt sehr seltsam. Also das Teil in der Kirche ist ein Weihrauchschwenker, ich hätte "incense" jetzt auch generell mit "Weihrauch" übersetzt. Im Privatgebrauch wäre es eine Räucherpfanne.
Offenbar bezieht sich Duftrauchbrenner nur auf die in China verwendeten Räuchergefäße.

[muckefuck.livejournal.com]

"Weihrauchschwenker" ist mir unbekannt; ich kenne nur das "Weihrachfass".

[itchwoot.livejournal.com]

same difference! ;)

[muckefuck.livejournal.com]

Auch wenn einer schwenkt und der andere wird gefasst?

[anicca-anicca.livejournal.com]

Man unterscheidet nach Weihrauch, das ist das in der Kirche, und das was im Indienladen und verkauft wird, sind meist Räucherstäbchen.
Die kleinen "cones" (da fällt mir grad das deutsche Wort nicht ein - ach doch, - Kegel, Räucherkegel, die man, vorwiegend im Osten, in der Vorweihnachtszeit abbrennt, stellt man meist in eine Art Holzfigur, genannt Räuchermännchen.

[muckefuck.livejournal.com]

Die hab ich nicht vorher gesehen, aber jetzt will ich unbedingt einen meinem festen Freund kaufen--je kitschiger desto besser!

Oh... Forgot this

[gorkabear.livejournal.com]

Did you know that there is something here called "Botafumeiro" (it's gallego) to call that? It's well know for the Saint James celebrations in Santiago de Compostela:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botafumeiro

[muckefuck.livejournal.com]

I only discovered it when doing research for this post! BTW, "thurible" and "thurifer" are great words, but I never heard them growing up. The incense burner at mass was called a "censer" and there was no special name for the person who carried it.

[gorkabear.livejournal.com]

Here it's always on TV. Santiago used to be the patron of whole Spain. "¡Santiago y cierra España!"

What most spaniards don't realize is that Santiago has the San included, I've heard people saying "¿Cuándo es San Santiago?"

[muckefuck.livejournal.com]

What do you mean "used to be"? Unlike poor George, he's still in the calendar!

[gorkabear.livejournal.com]

Sorry, as usually my mind went faster than my fingers. Santiago, as the patron of Spain, used to be national holiday. Now it's just for Galicia and maybe another Autonomous Community when they run short on holidays (we've got 10 national, 2 regional and 2 local in total).

We Catalans celebrate Sant Joan instead (which is the summer's solstice celebration), or even Second Easter (this is because our Catholic tradition is French and not Castilian).

Yes, it's quite a mess trying to figure out sometimes where a holiday takes place. But this being the "fiesta country", party and holidays are serious business!

[muckefuck.livejournal.com]

Even though you told me already about the name "Segona Pasqua", I still had to look it up. In German, "Second Easter" ("der Zweite Ostertag") is Easter Monday and it's still the first thing I think of.

[gorkabear.livejournal.com]

Mmmm....
Pentecost! (bad spelling in English for sure), that's 40 days after the day christians celebrate the death of someone who probably didn't exist and to whom they attribute a lot of stuff

[richardthinks.livejournal.com]

Sant Joan = St. John (San Juan)?

[muckefuck.livejournal.com]

The baptizy guy, yeah.

[richardthinks.livejournal.com]

I figured. I just couldn't get the sound of English "Joan" (as in Rivers) out of my head, and I never deal with that spelling - around our way it's Joao.

[muckefuck.livejournal.com]

I shudder to think how you've been saying "Joan Miró" all these years!

[richardthinks.livejournal.com]

good point. It's about 15 years since I last taught art history: there's been some brain atrophy since then.

[gorkabear.livejournal.com]

Yes...
It's summer's solstice (more or less)