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[muckefuck]

Oh, and for everyone on my Flist who's trumpeting the pick of Palin for VP as a colossal blunder on McCain's part, you might just want to have a peek at this link (ganked from mollpeartree) before you start partying:

http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/2008/08/29/i-knew-it-i-knew-it-i-knew-it/.

I admit, I hadn't really considered the Palin's-rubber-Obama's-glue aspect of the whole experience issue. And the points about the rural/urban divide are well-taken, too.

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[arkanjil.livejournal.com]

But so far, that's about all Palin's got going for her. It is indeed a nifty attempt at triangulation, but this girl, well, she's got issues of her own

and more to the point,to my jaundiced eye, is that this is all theater, for now- by November, it very probably will be back to that old refrainit's the economy, (roll your own here). Brings back that old refrain, especially after the last 8 years- who in their right minds would want the job in the first place?

And one last point to ponder- Obama trounced Hillary by the numbers, scooping out delegate counts out of long ignored venues all over- much in the same way BushCo took the White House the last two cycles. I've lost the link, but last poll I saw where it counts (in the Electoral College) put Obama well ahead of McCain. It took two drubbings for the lesson to hit home, but they aren't going to play by the old rules this cycle- and it will take more than a VP in sheep's clothing to change that significantly...

[donncha22.livejournal.com]

Palin is anti-choice, anti-environment, anti-science (she's likes creationism) and supported Buchanan for president. If any woman who supported Clinton -- the polar opposite of those things -- can turn to Palin as a alternative, that woman is never understood what Clinton stands for in this country.. Are there really that many women out there willing to vent their disappointment at the cost of the country's future?

[muckefuck.livejournal.com]

See, this assumes--like a lot of similar responses I've seen--that all Clinton's support was from yellow dog Dems to begin with. But Republican women crossed party lines to vote Clinton, and she had strong support from swing voters of both sexes.

If you're hard-core abortion rights, you would never vote McCain's ticket no matter who's on it. But a lot of women aren't. Some of them were willing to overlook Clinton's stance on this and other issues because of her perceived strong points, but they won't do the same for Obama--especially not (as the blogger and commentators I linked to point out) after the same ugly misogyny that tainted the race for the nomination rears its head again in response to Palin.

[donncha22.livejournal.com]

"same ugly misogyny"? I live in a state with a woman governor and both my senators are women. We have grown past the notion that every time a woman candidate is attacked it's a case of misogyny. Try "politics as usual" as a label.

[muckefuck.livejournal.com]

I honestly don't know what to say. It's like you and I witnessed two completely different campaigns.

Here's a summary of the one I saw: http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/violet_socks_at_reclusive_leftistprobabl.

How does it compare to yours?

[nibadi.livejournal.com]

Diese Frau ist mir gänzlich unbekannt. Ein vermeintlich kluger Schachzug von McCain, aber ich hoffe, das amerikanische Volk ist klüger als sein momentaner Ruf.

Ich wünschte mir immer noch Clinton, aber jetzt soll Obama mal machen! Wenn ich dürfte würde ich ihn wählen. Dafür würde ich sogar einen Flug in die USA buchen. Wenn Obama klug wäre, würde er Clinton stärker einbinden, sie als designierte Sicherheitsberaterin, Außenministerin oder Sozialministerin einführen, damit die frustrierten Anhänger der Ex-Kandidatin versöhnt werden.

Diese McCain Vize-Frau sieht irgendwie aus wie aus einem Magazin der späten 50er Jahre entsprungen. Sie scheint ja auch Ideen dieser Zeit zu repräsentieren. Gruselig.

[gopower.livejournal.com]

The it's-really-her-daughter's-baby-story is, well, completely insane.
And Palin was a Steve Forbes supporter (and state co-chair, I believe) in 2000, about as far from Pat Buchanan as you can get.

For this (and most other political topics), it is better to just read conservative sites and skip all the lefties. The right covers all attacks (especially against a non-friend like McCain); the left seems to wallow in their biases.