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In case Tuesday's portrait of my new neighbour with the meth head ex left you feeling sad, I'll tell you that he was in fine spirits when I ran into him on the train last night. It was his birthday, so he was doled up for a night on the town; I spotted him from across the car and he fairly bounded up to me--which was a touch awkward, as I was underslept and just getting home from an overlong day at work. Also, it was a full car and, even though I felt like giving him a congratulatory peck, I gave it a miss because I didn't fell up to having to deal with any possible bullshit. (Homophobia sucks, the internalised kind most of all.)
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Date: 2008-05-03 03:42 pm (UTC)

homophobia sucks

From: [identity profile] donncha22.livejournal.com
I have a good friend, a prof of "Communication" at the university here, who argues that using "suck" that way covertly disparages gay men and women. His argument is: Who sucks dick? Answer: Gay men and women. Who "never" sucks dick? Straight men. Straight men don't "suck", only chicks and queers do. What do you think? Too PC, perceptive?
Date: 2008-05-03 09:00 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] muckefuck.livejournal.com
On the subject of PCness, how phallocentric is it for him to assume that the object must be a penis? Anyone can suck ass, for instance, and even dogs suck eggs.
Date: 2008-05-03 10:12 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] cruiser.livejournal.com
A friend of mine expands it to "that sucks canal water" - and having seen a number of canals, sucking it is something one definitely doesn't want to do.
Date: 2008-05-04 03:23 am (UTC)

From: [identity profile] donncha22.livejournal.com
http://www.mtannoyances.com/?p=358

For a reasonable discussion of possible origins of the expression. But etymology is one thing, while popular interpretation is another, and the latter is probably more relevant to current subtextual (?) nuances. I guess I won't bother doing penance when the phrase slips out from time to time.
Date: 2008-05-05 01:37 am (UTC)

From: [identity profile] muckefuck.livejournal.com
Is it? I don't see any empirical evidence supporting that interpretation, but I do see a lot of question-begging--particularly in the thread you linked to.

Here's another data point for you: One of my college classmates kept a week-long journal of homophobia that was printed in the school magazine. One of the incidents mentioned was overhearing another student say, "That sucks!" This prompted some of dormmates to ask me incredulously if I really thought that expression was anti-gay; clearly the possibility had never even occurred to them before.
Date: 2008-05-04 08:13 am (UTC)

From: [identity profile] mathiasroesel.livejournal.com
Erlebst vielleicht Sachen...!
Date: 2008-05-06 08:50 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] ladysophis2k8.livejournal.com
Having seen my share of heteros and homos "sucking face" on public trans now and again and having myself yes, I confess it, been among their number, I regret to hear of your resolution. On the PC line, I'm with Da. Mister prof "Communication," is presuming a supremacist heterosexuality which frankly, Scarlett Johannsen, is sooo, for lack of a better euphemism, 'Black Orchid 2000.'

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