Part of the point I was making is that you can and should be able to separate opposition to same-sex marriage from support for Prop 8. Moreover, throughout your responses, you've been making the point that what should be not allowed by society and what should be forbidden by law can and should be diverge. People like Eich were free to discourage people from contracting same-sex marriages before and they are free to continuing discouraging them now, regardless of what the law says.
I can't see any cost-benefit analysis of same-sex marriage which favours its opponents. The cost to those whose relationships are denied recognition is huge and extremely concrete; the societal benefits to disallowing them are completely nebulous. It's not at all comparable to a rail line or an intervention overseas.
Either same-sex marriages should be recognized by the law or they shouldn't.
At the time Prop 8 was passed, it should've been clear to anyone paying attention that that ship had sailed, that--as Gavin Newsom notoriously pointed out--same-sex marriage was coming to California and that all that all a legislative measure could do was, at most, delay it a few years--in the meantime inflicting useless suffering on hundreds of thousands of people. As I say above, the degree of spitefulness on display was sickening.
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Date: 2014-04-29 08:54 pm (UTC)Part of the point I was making is that you can and should be able to separate opposition to same-sex marriage from support for Prop 8. Moreover, throughout your responses, you've been making the point that what should be not allowed by society and what should be forbidden by law can and should be diverge. People like Eich were free to discourage people from contracting same-sex marriages before and they are free to continuing discouraging them now, regardless of what the law says.
I can't see any cost-benefit analysis of same-sex marriage which favours its opponents. The cost to those whose relationships are denied recognition is huge and extremely concrete; the societal benefits to disallowing them are completely nebulous. It's not at all comparable to a rail line or an intervention overseas.
Either same-sex marriages should be recognized by the law or they shouldn't.
At the time Prop 8 was passed, it should've been clear to anyone paying attention that that ship had sailed, that--as Gavin Newsom notoriously pointed out--same-sex marriage was coming to California and that all that all a legislative measure could do was, at most, delay it a few years--in the meantime inflicting useless suffering on hundreds of thousands of people. As I say above, the degree of spitefulness on display was sickening.