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muckefuck ([personal profile] muckefuck) wrote2015-01-07 10:53 am
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Les fesses sataniques

I'm having a mixed reaction to the events at Charlie Hebdo. On the one hand, the massacre is horrific and I absolutely don't hold the victims accountable for it. Whatever the provocation, it was entirely the killers' decision to take up arms and needlessly slaughter people. However, baiting Muslims has been the magazine's stock-in-trade for some years now. Despite the outlandish claims of Islamophobes, Muslims are still very much a minority in France and a disadvantaged one, which means this is punching down. So I'm not eager to see these cartoonists acclaimed as free-speech martyrs.

Worse, all they've really gone and proved by pulling the tiger's tail is that if you keep it up long enough, eventually unstable men will take up arms against you. We kind of knew that already, didn't we? Ultimately all this does is play into the hands of extremists on both sides. Seeing those who seek to humiliate Islam taken down a peg is a great recruitment tool for young radicals. Conversely, those demagogues warning of "Eurabia" have further confirmation for their contention that Islam is incompatible with modern civilisation.

So now we have a dozen people dead, thousands more living in fear, and no end in sight to the rising tensions between immigrants and nativists in Europe or elsewhere. I can't and won't criticise these journalists for "getting themselves killed"; that's victim-blaming nonsense. But several of them did contribute to making our world a little bit worse, and for what?

ETA: Given the professionalism of the assassins, Juan Cole posits that this was an al-Qaeda plot to provoke an overreaction that will further alienate young Muslims in Europe.

Sandip Roy shares some of my reservations. Jacob Canfield goes further. ("In summary: Nobody should have been killed over those cartoons. Fuck those cartoons.") Surprisingly good discussion in comments.

[identity profile] mallorys-camera.livejournal.com 2015-01-07 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
It begs what question? Have you seen these cartoons and articles?

One of the purposes of humor is to defuse implied violence. Thus we have comedians like Chris Rock and Dave LaChapelle. Yup. I think they're really, really funny even though they're filled with rage and white culture is often the butt of their humor. I guess I'm white (although by the quaint judicial codes of pre-Civil War Louisiana, I'm actually an octaroon.)

I may well have thought coon and minstrel jokes were funny if I'd been an adult back when they were the rage. Cultural mores shift over time. I think the wholesale bowdlerization and condemnation of the past because it doesn't share the enlightenment of the present is pretty fucking bizarre. That doesn't mean I don't support the more enlightened views of the present.

There's no way I can spin the bombings in France as anything other than an action by a particularly creepy fundamentalist faction of Islam that I would cheerfully obliterate if I could. Fuck 'em. Seriously.

[identity profile] mollpeartree.livejournal.com 2015-01-08 12:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I have seen the cartoons since I work at a library that immediately ordered a copy of the issue in question when it was first published. It is a testament to the power of terrorism to silence speech that so few people have. Can you think of another instance where an attempt at censorship hasn't resulted in the wider dispersal of thing being censored?

The cartoons are quite mild compared to Piss Christ etc. that Christians are considered inbred boobies for even hemming at.

[identity profile] mallorys-camera.livejournal.com 2015-01-08 01:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I immediately flashed on the Piss Christ, too. Funny.

And have since tracked down a few of the Charlie cartoons. I wouldn't describe them as particularly inflammatory. Mileage varies on that one, I suppose.