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muckefuck ([personal profile] muckefuck) wrote2005-03-10 01:15 pm

"The South always begins ten miles south of wherever you happen to be standing."

If you have a moment, why not join [livejournal.com profile] febrile's poll of what cultural regions certain US states belong to? (And I say this because I'm genuinely curious to see what the results of a larger sample would be, not just because I'm trying to rectify any specific imbalances in responses. After all, I'm sure several of you reading this are ignora independently-minded enough to place Missouri in "the South" as well.) As [livejournal.com profile] grahamwest's participation testifies, American citizenship is not necessary!

At the risk of prejudicing the results, I've always found attempts to draw borders between cultural regions following state lines to be somewhat silly. After all, political borders, unlike cultural boundaries, are absolute, arbitrary, and fixed. For that matter, any attempt to set up categories based on a single "sufficient and necessary criterion" is bound to fail, as I've tried to explain before in this journal. Not only do the data resist it, but our own heads don't even work that way.

Edit: In fact, whether to spite me or what, the votes of those I redirected have decreased the number of respondents who consider Missouri "Midwestern" from fourth-fifths to two-thirds. Way to go, East Coast freaks!

Re: Bless you.

[identity profile] grahamwest.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Costellos sells a very nice sandwich called the Heartland, so the word can't be all bad.

Let me amend the statement, then.

[identity profile] humpingbears.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 07:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Even though I've never heard of Costello's, if you're taking the time to comment about it, it must be good.

When uttered by a politician in any way shape or form other than ordering a sandwich by that name, the word "Heartland" is a horrible, horrible, horrible word. It should be taken out back and shot.

Re: Let me amend the statement, then.

[identity profile] pacotelic.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Why not just eliminate the middleman and take the kind of politician who would use that word out back and shoot them instead?