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muckefuck ([personal profile] muckefuck) wrote2012-06-01 03:56 pm

Just wait till you get older...

I've frequently wondered if the oft-noted trend of young people to get "more conservative" as they age was as universal as all that. Now at last some clear evidence that it isn't. It will be interesting to see what sociologists turn up as they go about investigating the causes. In particular, I'll be interested in seeing the role ascribed to childlessness (which is double for our generation what it was for our parents), since many people I know personally have identified this as a driver of returns to the fold. How many of us, on articulating our liberal views to our elders, have heard the words, "You'll feel different when you have kids." I didn't have kids and I don't feel different, but I'm not sure what connexion there might be between those two things, if any. It is worth noting, however, that of us four kids, the only one who's still a practicing Catholic is also the only one with any offspring.

An interesting side note on that: my generation was also the "most Catholic" in USA history, with a fully a third identified with the religion in the 70s. Now it's down to a quarter and still dropping, something conservative pundits are ascribing to "confusion" about what the RCC actually teaches as a result of Vatican II. Hate to break it to you, guys, but I know in pretty thorough detail what the RCC actually teaches and that's precisely why I could never again be a practicing Catholic.

[identity profile] jovianconsensus.livejournal.com 2012-06-01 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Interesting. I strongly suspect the decline in religious affiliation is related to childlessness, but which is the cause, and which the effect? Or they could both be caused by some common factor. Maybe this cohort doesn't trust in social institutions like religion because they felt like those institutions never came through for them: they never felt secure enough to have children.

Can I get a ruling on when Generation X ends? I was born in 1980 and am sometimes told that I'm part of it, sometimes not. This article defines it as ending in 1972, which seems very early. Surveying a narrower age band is the right choice here (don't want to mix in 30-somethings who are still having children), but why call it Generation X?

Of course, economic conservatism is dead among the elderly. The epitaph: "Keep your government hands off my Medicare."

[identity profile] lhn.livejournal.com 2012-06-01 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
IIRC, Strauss and Howe had it as 1961-1981 in "Generations", so it would make sense that you'd be in the border regions. Ultimately, where the border is set may depend in part on what's used as the defining moment for the Millennials. Probably the role that either 9/11 or the Great Recession played in their early adulthood, if I had to guess. (There might be a provisional case for adult/not-adult on 9/11 as the divider, though I'm not sure if that should be 18, 21, or some other number.)